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Rheem vs. Amana

Rheem vs. Amana

I’ve been receiving estimates on a new heat pump and gas furnace. I have narrowed it down to two dealers, one installs Amana the other Rheem.

Amana: AMV950703B furnace variable speed / 2 stage
ASZ14036 3 ton heat pump 14 seer coil
Aprilaire humidifier
Honeywell HW8000 Stat
total price of install

Rheem: RGRM-07 2 stage 95% furnace variable also
RPRL-036 3 ton heat pump with 16 seer coil
honeywell pro8000 stat
honeywell he225 humifier
Total price of install

My question is which is the better system. I know the installer has a lot to do with the way the unit will work. The Amana dealer is going to run the vent out under my deck and then along the house. The Rheem dealer explained that can not be done and will have to run venting the opposite way.

Any comments or suggestions is appreciated. thank you in advanced.

Last edited by BaldLoonie; 02-19-2010 at 02:58 PM. Reason: removed pricing per site rules

REP said: 02-19-2010 02:52 PM

I have my own personal preferance as to equip and to how the manufactuerer treats the end user,but that is to be put aside.
Did eitrher of the contractors do a load calc?
I would have to see your venting situation and I would have to see what length requirements the manufactuerer has put on the venting of their equipment,but from where I’m standing right now it appears that the Rheem dealer is telling you the truth.

The Rheem is a 2 stage outdoor unit, Amana single stage. The 8000 is the wrong thermostat for 2 stage gas backup on dual fuel, should use an IAQ to properly stage the backup furnaces. 8000 means you cripple the furnace by using the timer. Dang hacks. For that kind of money, they should do it right. Also the IAQ will control the humidifier.

They both did a load calculation and deemed that the 100k btu I currently have is too large. They recommended the 70k as it would be sufficient for the size of home that I have.

The Amana contractor explained that I would be able to control the humidity through the thermostat, the Rheem said I would not. What thermostat should I ask for if I go with the Rheem install.

I forgot to mention that the Rheem dealer is also installing two manual dampers to attempt to improve airflow to the upstairs bedrooms.

Thank you for your responses.

I’d put the Vision Pro IAQ on either system. It will properly stage the 2 stage gas furnace, it will work with either furnace’s variable speed blower for dehumidify on demand and it will work a humidifier.

The 8321 will dehumidify by overcooling the space. It will not handle the gas furnace properly and doesn’t work a humidifier.

thank you. I will look into that.

So you guys think, the Rheem is a better system than the Amana. The Amana offers 10 years warranty but the installer only offers 1 year parts and labor. Rheem installer offers 5 years parts and labor, which makes me believe the product is more reliable. Is my assumption correct or incorrect.

If you are having problems with airflow and think the dampers will help; get the Amana
dealer to figure them in also. Shouldn’t let that be the deal breaker between the two bids.

not at all. Just the fact that Amana dealer wanted to charge over 1k for automatic dampers but didn’t offer the option of the manual ones. I’ve been researching on both makes for about a week and still unsure on who to go with. I dont mind paying more for the Amana if I’m getting a better system and installer. But how do I know how good of an installer they are.

REP said: 02-19-2010 08:12 PM

The more you go on the bettor the Rheem dealer looks.
1) bettor price
2)bettor features in equipment
3)seems more knowleble on basic venting procedures
You might want to ask about if the quoted stat will do what you want.
you might want to ask if there is an extended warrenty to cover parts and labor to go out to ten years.
You might want to ask how warrenty parts are handled.Are they just covered or do you pay for them and then get a credit.
You might want to ask if they provide 24 hour service if you have extended warrenty coverage or will you have to wait till the next day so thaty the labor is fully covered.

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  3. Postpone the use of appliances — On average, there are three major heat generating appliances in the home, the oven, dishwasher and dryer. It is best to use these devices in the evening instead of the hottest part of the day. If possible, skip using the oven during the summer and grill outside more often. Any use of the oven will heat up the home.
  4. Keep the doors inside the home open — While in the winter, closing interior doors helps keep heat in specific rooms. Doing so in the hot summer months is detrimental to your cause. You want air to flow freely through rooms and throughout the entire home. Good airflow means a cooler home.
  5. Change air filters regularly — Clogged filters will force the air conditioning system to work harder and use more energy, resulting in higher utility bills. Clean filters also improve indoor air quality.
  6. Check the window coverings —Thermal drapes, cellular shades or blackout curtains will keep the heat outside and the cool air inside the home.
  7. Schedule an air conditioner tune-up — Proper HVAC maintenance, which includes having a professional clean coils, fins, air filters and check for the proper refrigerant charge, is the best way to ensure that the unit runs efficiently and effectively.

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Sounds simple, but in reality there are so many options for furnace filters that choosing the wrong one can do more damage to your furnace than good and could potentially cause your furnace to break down.

How a furnace works

A traditional forced-air furnace draws air in via return ducts, warms it over a heat exchanger then, with the help of a blower fan, pushes the heated air through a series of ducts that branch off into rooms throughout your home. The furnace runs until the temperature inside reaches your desired thermostat setting. (If you have whole home air conditioning the process is similar with the air being cooled in the summer by an outdoor compressor unit and a series of coils inside your furnace).

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What a furnace filter does

The main purpose of a furnace filter is to protect the blower fan from all the dust, hair and other gunk the return duct pulls in. While it will also help the quality of your inside air (as it is removing contaminants from being recirculated), its job is not to actually clean your air as many people believe.

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How filters are rated

Furnace filters are rated using the minimum efficiency reporting value (MERV). MERV ratings range from 1 to 16. The higher the rating the more particles the filter can remove (check out the infographic below courtesy airfilterbuy.com to get an idea of what each MERV rating can handle). Higher rated filters allow less air to flow through though and can force your furnace to work harder and possibly malfunction. A MERV rating between eight and 11 is adequate for most homes. To be safe, you should check if your furnace manufacturer has a maximum MERV rating your model of furnace can use.

Some home improvement centres, such as Home Depot. use their own rating system on products sold in their stores. These ratings are similar to the MERV scale but do vary slightly. It’s best to confirm what their rating converts to on the MERV scale to ensure you’re using a filter safe for your furnace.

Filter types

The most common type of furnace filter is the disposable pleated kind. These come in a range of standard sizes and ratings. Pleated filters are constructed out of paper and polyester and do a good job at filtering most household particles and allergens. The price of these filters varies from a couple of dollars all the way into the $30 $40 range depending on the brand, size and rating of the filter. Pleated filters should be checked monthly for blockages and replaced on average every 90 days.

Disposable fibreglass filters are the cheapest filter on the market. They have an almost spider web appearance and are most often blue in colour. They come in many standard sizes, but are generally more flimsy and have lower ratings than pleated filters. Due to their inferior quality, disposable fibreglass filters should be checked and replaced more frequently than pleated filters.

Permanent reusable filters (also referred to as washable filters) are constructed with either a solid aluminum or plastic frame and are more efficient than a disposable filter. These filters can be vacuumed off and cleaned with water. They come in a range of sizes and ratings, and while more costly to purchase, they last an average of 5 years if maintained with a proper cleaning at least every 90 days.

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Both disposable and washable filters come in electrostatic versions. Electrostatic filters self-charge themselves as air passes through them. This process helps trap small particles, making them good for homes with pets or people who smoke inside. Check your furnace manual to ensure you can safely use electrostatic filters.

Filter sizes

Furnace filters are sized by thickness (depth), height and length. The most common thickness is 1”, with 4” also being a popular choice on larger systems. Height and length combinations range from 10”x10” all the way to 30”x30”. The most common sizes are 14”x25”, 16”x20”, 16”x25”, 20”x25”, and 25”x25”. To find out what size filter your furnace uses, remove and check the old filter (the size should be written on the frame of the filter) or refer to your furnace manual.

NOTE: If your furnace uses a custom size filter speak with your furnace manufacturer to find out where you can purchase replacement filters.

Replacing your filter

Once you know what size filter you require and what MERV rating you can use, and have chosen what filter type to purchase, it’s time to replace the old filter.

NOTE: To ensure your furnace doesn’t kick in while you’re changing your filter it’s recommended you turn your furnace off while swapping out the filter.

Open the filter compartment door (this will be between the air intake and furnace itself) and slide the old filter out and properly dispose of it (it will be dusty so try to place it in a bag as quickly and gently as possible). If you have a permanent filter, vacuum it off before rinsing it thoroughly with water. Allow it to completely dry before putting it back inside your furnace.

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If you haven’t changed your filter in a long time and notice lots of hair or dust around the filter opening, it’s highly recommend you vacuum around the outside of the furnace and inside the filter opening before replacing the filter.

Whether you’re using a disposable or washable filter it will have an arrow on it showing the direction of the airflow. The arrow needs to face the furnace side of the compartment when you slide it in. This is important to ensure your filter is working properly.

Once you have your filter replaced turn your furnace back on. Check your filter monthly and clean your washable filter or replace your disposable filter every 90 days.

NOTE: If you’re not comfortable cleaning or changing your own furnace filter contact an HVAC professional in your area for assistance.

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